I appreciate your regurgitation of years of propaganda from the scientism community however everything you claim to be true about earth and cosmology is junk science sold to the world by Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Kepler , Einstein, all who were black magic occultists. There are over 300 bible verses explaining the earth to be circular, level, stationary, non-rotating and Gods footstool with a foundation and pillars where the sun and moon circle over the plane of earth. NO Christian that reads Gods word can deny these facts. Biblical cosmology lining up with Gods favored servant (Enochs heavenly luminaries) is nothing at all what scientism tells us. Jesus, through the Holy Spirit will show you these things if you ask him and search them out. Even many scientists have disproven the meaning of gravity. NASA insiders admit they lie about everything not just some things. Flat earth was taught in school 100 years ago and has been the belief of the world for longer than heliocentrism, even the fallen angels before Noah's flood knew the earth and cosmology was geocentric. Advanced cameras alone have proven there is NO CURVE to earth. Go and prove it to yourself. The governments of the world have and write about it. They know no man can go through the firmament and that we live in a closed system. Pilots with physics degrees laugh about the spinning ball traveling millions of miles an hour while rotating 1000 miles per hour. They understand how gyroscope's work and how many flight patterns don't make sense on a globe. They understand no one compensates for a curve that does not exist. Train tracks don't curve over a spinning ball. Everything you said including all videos are mainstream propaganda NASA Academia falsehoods. Don't you think at 65 years old I know all that information you gave me? I spent 1000 hours learning information I was never told or read about and realized I had been lied to all of my life. And I actually found more information on the truth of stationary plane earth than there is on globe earth that is hidden in plain sight. So what theory here is delusional? I just want you and your followers to receive the truth. Interesting how you defend mainstream science and delete my comments? Don't you stand for free speech debate?
None of these comments have been deleted. The Flat Earth explanations are nonsensical with no basis in reality based upon my interpretations of all the evidence. My case for the round-rotating stars, planets, and moons was made in the posted article and nobody has "quoted >>" one word to refute anything, because nobody can. Going on and on for 1000 hours about your Bible interpretations and train tracks will not move the needle one way or the other. We are living on a round-rotating sphere, just like we see clearly with Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc., as posted above. The Apostle Paul writes on this topic, saying,
"For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires, and they will turn their ears away from the truth and will turn aside to myths." 2Timothy 4:3-4.
Again, the truth is that the stars, planets, and moons are round-rotating spheres. That is why the Sun comes up in the east and sets in the west for everyone. That is why the Sun rises one hour later from east to west in 24 time zones to begin the cycle again every 24 hours. Paul writes that the "deluding influence" forces people to "believe what is false" in 2Thes. 2:7-12 in connection with the "mystery of iniquity."
Carry on and believe the world and the planets are flat if you wish. The reality is that anyone deluded by God's deluding influence is deluded indeed and nothing anyone says will change that simple fact. That is why there are more than 20,000 denominations of professing Christians and one truth. Blessings, Terral
The Globe delusion was made up by Occultists Copernicus, Gallio, Newton, Kepler Einstein along with their black magic trickery friends leaving sound doctrine for mythical fake space alien savior nonsense. Basically you believe (as I once did) the doctrines of devils brainwashed into your mind by the junk scientism religion and NASA CGI Fakery. The bible says the earth can never be moved, shaken at times yes, but it never moves. Common sense and experimentation show that Earth is fixed in a closed system (admitted by scientists of today) and does NOT spin 1000 mph traveling millions of miles per hour into infinity. The sun and moon are the same size and travel around and over the level plane of earth. The sun is 7 times brighter than the lesser cold light of the moon. The sun rises in the eastern portal/gate and sets in the western portal/gate all seen with new technology cameras. The sun is positively in the clouds. You need to do your homework with all due respect. And I agree with you, there are many denominations and doctrines of devils because Satan deceived the whole world. Jesus and his word are the ONLY truth. He clearly tells us the earth is circular, level and stationery, and the Sun and moon traverse in the wind over and around the earth. Planets are wandering angels of light. The firmament crystal dome has been proven by our own scientists and government. Noah's worldwide cataclysmic, outburst flood has been proven, the Ark has been found as well. And none of it could have been possible on a spinning traveling ball. The globe in every house and school room is an idle to the sun god RA.
The problem with Christians and truthers are they do not believe what Gods word actually says (over 300 verses allude to flat earth cosmology and not one spinning, traveling ball verse) much less Gods favored anointed Enoch who specifically wrote a book for such a time as this. They twist the Bible and call it metaphor sadly. I pray you see the truth my friend. There are literally hundreds of books explaining what the Bible and book of Enoch already told us using experiments, documents, and proof. At least research my belief as I have yours. We can't allow this to bring division among the saints who simply want the TRUTH. I have shared my faith with you and will let it go for now, thanks for the conversation. Craig
The Bible, the Book of Enoch, and hundreds of scientists and experimenter's, have specifically proven to those with eyes to see that the earth is a level and stationery plane under Gods feet. Hundreds of other books have proven why Satan deceives the whole world with the Globe/planets/space lies. Most people are so indoctrinated they will not take time to search out this matter adequately.
No. These are "your interpretations" of God's Word that in my view have no basis in reality whatsoever. You and the entire duped (2Thes. 2:7-12, "deluding influence") Flat Earth Community can wake up in your beds each morning believing whatever you want to believe. The funny part is that your crooked finger pointing at me reveals three witnesses testifying against you as the one deluded and deceived indeed. Perhaps a good idea might be to consider for just a moment that the devil has you by the nose.
The Earth is still a round-rotating sphere like all the planets and stars in the cosmos.
Dismissing the Bible and Book of Enoch is your choice but don’t angrily cram your beliefs on us who agree with you on many things. Earth is circular, level and stationary without any curves proven with technology and observation, Gods footstool with legs on a foundation, under the firmament crystal dome. Planets are wandering stars which are angels attached to the firmament which rotate by wind with the sun and moon over the circular plane of earth which is much larger than we are told. The globe fake space belief is how the world will be deceived by Aliens which don’t exist. Fallen angels do and will deceive the world soon. I as everyone was indoctrinated with the spinning space balls lie until I researched 1000 hours to find the truth. Most people will never take the time to find the truth. It takes prayer and searching out the matter. Blessings
Thank you for taking the time to pass along your comments. Nobody is dismissing the Bible nor anything else, other than your misinterpretations of God's Word to substantiate false claims about the world being flat. Nobody on this side of the discussion is angry about anything either. Debate is about the presentation of opposing views. Nobody can possibly convince you of the truth that planets, moons, and stars are round rotating spheres, which is 100 percent fine and dandy with me. The links provided in my original presentation, and in these comments, are provided to help any third parties do their own research for determining the truth for themselves.
You may know that decades were invested researching the truth of God's Living Word using testimony by God's three witnesses of spirit, blood, and water. We can debate Scripture all day long until the cows come home, but my interpretations have nothing whatsoever to do with whether the world is round or flat. The laws of gravity, the law of economy, solar system dynamics and mechanics all say the world is a round rotating sphere. The moon rotates in its axis once every 29 days or so like our planet does every 24 hours. The Moon orbits around the Earth and the Earth orbits around the Sun that orbits around the galactic center of the Milky Way Galaxy that is just one of innumerable galaxies in the cosmos. These truths are self evident to most people taking the time to do the research, and unknowable to those deluded into believing something else.
Would you mind forwarding to me links to 2-3 your favorite best links that are explaining BIBLICAL Factual-Earth plane? in trying to explain truth I have lost friends and family, emotionally. People DO need to get this FACT right—as taught in scripture, & by The Creator Almighty God. Thankyou in Advance!
Look up Pastor Dean Odles website and watch his biblical explanations and scripture verses in multiple videos. Read /subscribe to Gregory Lesson Garrett’s substack as well, blessings !
Please be honest and explore thatHEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR & LORD GOD—— is not confined to any limits:… to dispel the mocking words of the “heliocentric earth followers”—-mockingly describing an adverse pizza, disk, or whatever: I maintain that the Lord has created an INFINITE PLANE—
A 100% foolproof way to convince anyone of this and to prove the infinite plane earth is this: an airplane can fly due West from St. Louis Missouri, and keep flying due west, and they will end up at the Antarctic massive ice wall… The problem is they would be intercepted by missiles and other watchers because no one is to know that we don’t live on a round ball: study the 1949 ANTARCTIC TREATY: Colonel admiral bird of the FREEMASONS. Do not confine CREATOR & ALMIGHTY LORD GOD to LIMITATIONS.
All of the so-called stars that are in the so-called outer space, are named after gods of the Luciferian persuasion.
Hi Sandra: Thank you for writing. Please "quote >>" from any of my supported statements and evidence and make any case you wish using whatever you consider to be evidence for a flat earth. Every word in my original article remains standing, until someone comes along to make a case using evidence for something else. Good luck. :0)
There is an abundance of science Fact to prove that our Heavenly Creator-Father-God Created an infinite Plane--with other worlds besides “EARTH” on the Plane. People rejecting the spinning ball, & the other planets named after gods are vigorously mocked with the “concept” of a “disc”
Because of our Firmament- above, no one has ever left the earth to the height to take a picture of what the earth actually looks like. But to believe that Earth is spinning faster than the speed of a bullet. It’s seems a bit incredulous.
We know that NASA has Retracted their deception about a “moon landing” Deception. I sent a similar message to this one, but I don’t know if it was sent.
NASA has recently Retracted much of their Deception to the World- regarding “space” because of the Firmament— there is history of the project Fishbowl-etc— the firmament cannot be shattered.
No, one on God’s Earth has left the Earth surface high enough— to make actual photographs of what Earth looks like. Images & Renditions of outer space “planets” are Artistic creations, or creative artwork.
I believe God when he told job where were you when I made the world that no man can measure the size of this Earth
I appreciate your regurgitation of years of propaganda from the scientism community however everything you claim to be true about earth and cosmology is junk science sold to the world by Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Kepler , Einstein, all who were black magic occultists. There are over 300 bible verses explaining the earth to be circular, level, stationary, non-rotating and Gods footstool with a foundation and pillars where the sun and moon circle over the plane of earth. NO Christian that reads Gods word can deny these facts. Biblical cosmology lining up with Gods favored servant (Enochs heavenly luminaries) is nothing at all what scientism tells us. Jesus, through the Holy Spirit will show you these things if you ask him and search them out. Even many scientists have disproven the meaning of gravity. NASA insiders admit they lie about everything not just some things. Flat earth was taught in school 100 years ago and has been the belief of the world for longer than heliocentrism, even the fallen angels before Noah's flood knew the earth and cosmology was geocentric. Advanced cameras alone have proven there is NO CURVE to earth. Go and prove it to yourself. The governments of the world have and write about it. They know no man can go through the firmament and that we live in a closed system. Pilots with physics degrees laugh about the spinning ball traveling millions of miles an hour while rotating 1000 miles per hour. They understand how gyroscope's work and how many flight patterns don't make sense on a globe. They understand no one compensates for a curve that does not exist. Train tracks don't curve over a spinning ball. Everything you said including all videos are mainstream propaganda NASA Academia falsehoods. Don't you think at 65 years old I know all that information you gave me? I spent 1000 hours learning information I was never told or read about and realized I had been lied to all of my life. And I actually found more information on the truth of stationary plane earth than there is on globe earth that is hidden in plain sight. So what theory here is delusional? I just want you and your followers to receive the truth. Interesting how you defend mainstream science and delete my comments? Don't you stand for free speech debate?
Hi Craig:
None of these comments have been deleted. The Flat Earth explanations are nonsensical with no basis in reality based upon my interpretations of all the evidence. My case for the round-rotating stars, planets, and moons was made in the posted article and nobody has "quoted >>" one word to refute anything, because nobody can. Going on and on for 1000 hours about your Bible interpretations and train tracks will not move the needle one way or the other. We are living on a round-rotating sphere, just like we see clearly with Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc., as posted above. The Apostle Paul writes on this topic, saying,
"For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires, and they will turn their ears away from the truth and will turn aside to myths." 2Timothy 4:3-4.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Tim+4%3A3-4&version=NASB
Again, the truth is that the stars, planets, and moons are round-rotating spheres. That is why the Sun comes up in the east and sets in the west for everyone. That is why the Sun rises one hour later from east to west in 24 time zones to begin the cycle again every 24 hours. Paul writes that the "deluding influence" forces people to "believe what is false" in 2Thes. 2:7-12 in connection with the "mystery of iniquity."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Thes+2%3A7-12&version=NASB
Carry on and believe the world and the planets are flat if you wish. The reality is that anyone deluded by God's deluding influence is deluded indeed and nothing anyone says will change that simple fact. That is why there are more than 20,000 denominations of professing Christians and one truth. Blessings, Terral
The Globe delusion was made up by Occultists Copernicus, Gallio, Newton, Kepler Einstein along with their black magic trickery friends leaving sound doctrine for mythical fake space alien savior nonsense. Basically you believe (as I once did) the doctrines of devils brainwashed into your mind by the junk scientism religion and NASA CGI Fakery. The bible says the earth can never be moved, shaken at times yes, but it never moves. Common sense and experimentation show that Earth is fixed in a closed system (admitted by scientists of today) and does NOT spin 1000 mph traveling millions of miles per hour into infinity. The sun and moon are the same size and travel around and over the level plane of earth. The sun is 7 times brighter than the lesser cold light of the moon. The sun rises in the eastern portal/gate and sets in the western portal/gate all seen with new technology cameras. The sun is positively in the clouds. You need to do your homework with all due respect. And I agree with you, there are many denominations and doctrines of devils because Satan deceived the whole world. Jesus and his word are the ONLY truth. He clearly tells us the earth is circular, level and stationery, and the Sun and moon traverse in the wind over and around the earth. Planets are wandering angels of light. The firmament crystal dome has been proven by our own scientists and government. Noah's worldwide cataclysmic, outburst flood has been proven, the Ark has been found as well. And none of it could have been possible on a spinning traveling ball. The globe in every house and school room is an idle to the sun god RA.
The problem with Christians and truthers are they do not believe what Gods word actually says (over 300 verses allude to flat earth cosmology and not one spinning, traveling ball verse) much less Gods favored anointed Enoch who specifically wrote a book for such a time as this. They twist the Bible and call it metaphor sadly. I pray you see the truth my friend. There are literally hundreds of books explaining what the Bible and book of Enoch already told us using experiments, documents, and proof. At least research my belief as I have yours. We can't allow this to bring division among the saints who simply want the TRUTH. I have shared my faith with you and will let it go for now, thanks for the conversation. Craig
The Bible, the Book of Enoch, and hundreds of scientists and experimenter's, have specifically proven to those with eyes to see that the earth is a level and stationery plane under Gods feet. Hundreds of other books have proven why Satan deceives the whole world with the Globe/planets/space lies. Most people are so indoctrinated they will not take time to search out this matter adequately.
No. These are "your interpretations" of God's Word that in my view have no basis in reality whatsoever. You and the entire duped (2Thes. 2:7-12, "deluding influence") Flat Earth Community can wake up in your beds each morning believing whatever you want to believe. The funny part is that your crooked finger pointing at me reveals three witnesses testifying against you as the one deluded and deceived indeed. Perhaps a good idea might be to consider for just a moment that the devil has you by the nose.
The Earth is still a round-rotating sphere like all the planets and stars in the cosmos.
https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round/
https://www.britannica.com/video/185544/reasons-Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_W280R_Jt8
https://askanearthspacescientist.asu.edu/top-question/flat-earth
https://starwalk.space/en/news/7-ways-to-prove-the-earth-is-round
https://www.space.com/38931-kids-can-prove-earth-round.html
Dismissing the Bible and Book of Enoch is your choice but don’t angrily cram your beliefs on us who agree with you on many things. Earth is circular, level and stationary without any curves proven with technology and observation, Gods footstool with legs on a foundation, under the firmament crystal dome. Planets are wandering stars which are angels attached to the firmament which rotate by wind with the sun and moon over the circular plane of earth which is much larger than we are told. The globe fake space belief is how the world will be deceived by Aliens which don’t exist. Fallen angels do and will deceive the world soon. I as everyone was indoctrinated with the spinning space balls lie until I researched 1000 hours to find the truth. Most people will never take the time to find the truth. It takes prayer and searching out the matter. Blessings
Hi Craig:
Thank you for taking the time to pass along your comments. Nobody is dismissing the Bible nor anything else, other than your misinterpretations of God's Word to substantiate false claims about the world being flat. Nobody on this side of the discussion is angry about anything either. Debate is about the presentation of opposing views. Nobody can possibly convince you of the truth that planets, moons, and stars are round rotating spheres, which is 100 percent fine and dandy with me. The links provided in my original presentation, and in these comments, are provided to help any third parties do their own research for determining the truth for themselves.
https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Explained-Terral-Croft/dp/1545620717
You may know that decades were invested researching the truth of God's Living Word using testimony by God's three witnesses of spirit, blood, and water. We can debate Scripture all day long until the cows come home, but my interpretations have nothing whatsoever to do with whether the world is round or flat. The laws of gravity, the law of economy, solar system dynamics and mechanics all say the world is a round rotating sphere. The moon rotates in its axis once every 29 days or so like our planet does every 24 hours. The Moon orbits around the Earth and the Earth orbits around the Sun that orbits around the galactic center of the Milky Way Galaxy that is just one of innumerable galaxies in the cosmos. These truths are self evident to most people taking the time to do the research, and unknowable to those deluded into believing something else.
Would you mind forwarding to me links to 2-3 your favorite best links that are explaining BIBLICAL Factual-Earth plane? in trying to explain truth I have lost friends and family, emotionally. People DO need to get this FACT right—as taught in scripture, & by The Creator Almighty God. Thankyou in Advance!
Look up Pastor Dean Odles website and watch his biblical explanations and scripture verses in multiple videos. Read /subscribe to Gregory Lesson Garrett’s substack as well, blessings !
Please be honest and explore thatHEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR & LORD GOD—— is not confined to any limits:… to dispel the mocking words of the “heliocentric earth followers”—-mockingly describing an adverse pizza, disk, or whatever: I maintain that the Lord has created an INFINITE PLANE—
A 100% foolproof way to convince anyone of this and to prove the infinite plane earth is this: an airplane can fly due West from St. Louis Missouri, and keep flying due west, and they will end up at the Antarctic massive ice wall… The problem is they would be intercepted by missiles and other watchers because no one is to know that we don’t live on a round ball: study the 1949 ANTARCTIC TREATY: Colonel admiral bird of the FREEMASONS. Do not confine CREATOR & ALMIGHTY LORD GOD to LIMITATIONS.
All of the so-called stars that are in the so-called outer space, are named after gods of the Luciferian persuasion.
Hi Sandra: Thank you for writing. Please "quote >>" from any of my supported statements and evidence and make any case you wish using whatever you consider to be evidence for a flat earth. Every word in my original article remains standing, until someone comes along to make a case using evidence for something else. Good luck. :0)
There is an abundance of science Fact to prove that our Heavenly Creator-Father-God Created an infinite Plane--with other worlds besides “EARTH” on the Plane. People rejecting the spinning ball, & the other planets named after gods are vigorously mocked with the “concept” of a “disc”
Because of our Firmament- above, no one has ever left the earth to the height to take a picture of what the earth actually looks like. But to believe that Earth is spinning faster than the speed of a bullet. It’s seems a bit incredulous.
We know that NASA has Retracted their deception about a “moon landing” Deception. I sent a similar message to this one, but I don’t know if it was sent.
https://rumble.com/v3e4cw3-the-hidden-lands-beyond-the-ice-walls.html
NASA has recently Retracted much of their Deception to the World- regarding “space” because of the Firmament— there is history of the project Fishbowl-etc— the firmament cannot be shattered.
No, one on God’s Earth has left the Earth surface high enough— to make actual photographs of what Earth looks like. Images & Renditions of outer space “planets” are Artistic creations, or creative artwork.