Nano Silver Storage in Glass or Plastic Bottles?
Cindy's Particle Expert Weighs In Saying Glass Is Best
Thank you to Sue, Cindy, and Dr. Deborah for your assistance in helping me to see the truth regarding this Glass Or Plastic topic. Sue wrote with her concerns after reading this recent Substack post from a week ago:
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:30 PM Sue wrote:
Hello Terral,
Just read Substack regarding mixing silver in Pete (1) food grade bottles, thank for this information. Text below as was stated in Substack "Keith Moeller"
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“Also the PETE food grade plastic is much better than glass for silver liquid products (see the BYU study G VS P). The reason is easy: silver has a positive charge, glass has a negative charge so they attract each other, which can pull the silver out of suspension. PETE food grade plastic has a positive charge as does the silver, so they repel each other so the silver stays in suspension.”
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Does this mean the glass bottle shipped to me and now my having stored in glass now needs to be dumped. This information is useful, but very concerning as to know what do I do with the product shipped to me (2 orders) that was shipped in glass.
I hope to hear from you on this matter. Thank you,
Love and respect
Sue
The right answer was provided to me by Cindy who consulted a particle expert who validated my thoughts and conclusions about four hours earlier:
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:29 PM Cindy wrote:
Hey Terral,
1. A particle expert told me that glass is best. He chose glass to make the particle standard reference material.
He said:
Happy Mother’s Day!
I don’t know about silver plating out on the glass, to what extent. Maybe some, but it depends on the silver complex in suspension. The key is to overload the silver ppm in solution. Let the glass container consume enough silver to passivate the surface, then everything will be in equilibrium. You’ll know how successful you are by bacteria testing, right? That’s the bottom line.
BOTTOMLINE. DO NOT SWITCH TO PLASTIC BECAUSE PLASTIC SHEDS PLASTIC PARTICLES.
2. BTW, what electrolyte solution do you use for cramps?
Give me a call if you’d like to discuss with me or with me and him.
I then responded to Cindy:
Hi Cindy:
Thank you for writing. I agree 100 percent with your particle expert. My Nano Silver is produced in the lab with a 505-510 ppm concentration to ensure everyone receives the best bang for their buck. My feeling right away when hearing about the +/- charge was that the high-concentration Nano Silver would line the 2-ounce bottle to produce a neutral environment and that everything was fine. That explains why Doug made the recommendation in the first place. I did not like the idea of storing 500ppm Nano Silver in plastic bottles. Although, I can see the benefit of using the 3-liter PETE1 bottles in the lab during the production process, and for mixing-diluting 500ppm Nano Silver to 10ppm for our personal use.
Blessings, Terral
This is my reply to Sue to answer her concerns (05.17.2024 at 6:35AM):
Hi Sue:
Thank you for writing. Cindy consulted a particle expert and sent me his conclusions about four hours before your email was sent. Storing our Nano Silver in the 2-ounce Amber Boston Bottles is 100 percent better than storing in PETE1 bottles that shed plastic. The highly concentrated Nano Silver particles attach to the glass to create an insulating layer and neutral environment for long-time storage that Doug specifies as 20+years. Thank you again for creating the opportunity to share this information with supporters.
Blessings, Terral
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Update 10.10.2024:
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 6:28 PM Keith Moeller <keith@silverceuticals.com> wrote:
I had our product tested at several major universities including Penn State and Az State and they published a paper on it. We showed no shedding into the product from the plastic using the PETE. Nothing else was found in the bottle except the silver even down to Parts per Billion. In the summary they stated: 1. The very potent biologically active silver aquasols contained, typically, the amounts of silver claimed by the manufacturer, typically from 10 to 30 ppm by weight of Ag. The silver was very pure as was the water. So, no shedding. Have a great day!
Thank you,
Keith
Dr. Keith Moeller
CEO, SilverCeuticals Inc.
Office (385) 212-4044 ext. 700
Mobile (801) 361-5900
Received a Doctorate in Naturopathy
Terral’s reply:
Terral Croft
October 10, 2024, 7:22 AM (3 minutes ago)
Hi Dr. Keith:
Thank you for writing. Your test results explain why Doug recommends PETE 1 bottles in his instructions. He also states that his Nano Silver (Terral03.com Nano Silver) has a 20-year+ shelf life kept in a dark place at room temperature. Some of my supporters have concerns about storing anything long term in plastic bottles.
https://www.snexplores.org/article/microplastic-taints-most-bottled-water
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2024/01/12/plastic-bottles-nanoplastics
Those concerns led us to consult the particle specialist and the conclusion that glass is superior to plastic for long term storage. Then, Doug trained me to ship 500ppm Nano Silver in Amber Boston glass bottles. I have received shipments of MMS (chlorine dioxide) in plastic bottles that degraded sitting inside a drawer. I realize that the MMS and Nano Silver are horses of different colors, but my overall feeling is that Doug ships his Nano Silver in the glass bottles for good reasons. I am wondering how long your Nano Silver was in the PETE 1 bottles before testing and what the results would be if tested after a decade or two.
For me, I use the 3-liter PETE 1 bottles in the lab, but ship and store products in amber glass bottles. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to follow up with me on this topic and feel better about keeping PETE 1 bottles in the instructions.
Blessings, Terral
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“don’t know about silver plating out on the glass, to what extent. Maybe some, but it depends on the silver complex isuspension. The key is to overload the silver ppm in solution. Let the glass container consume enough silver to passivate the surface, then everything will be in equilibrium.”-copy pasted from one of your email exchanges above
I remember earlier this year someone had the question about why the silver had plated their glass container. That answers that ☺️. I have seen (on picture) this happen to nanogold, the entire glass jar turns into that beautiful gold color.
I wonder if this plating phenomenon can also happen with colloidal metals?
I wish Celeste had asked that nanosilver guy Keith what the difference is between nano and colloidal silver is. I understand it on a basic level but I was so hoping he’d focus in on that topic. I see he did reply to an email with a relevant attachment though.
Thanks so much to you both for sharing these studies and emails!!